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Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:51 am Posts: 1028 Location: Canberra, Australia
Hi Guys,
I have owned bikes that use cable operated clutches, and of course, those which are hydraulic. I have always considered the hydraulic clutches to be the better option as there is no need for adjustment and no cable to snap (this has happened to me before). But I recall seeing at least one member of the GSXR range that used a cable clutch, which surprised me since the sports bikes are presumably Suzuki's non-budget range. And then we have the "budget" 650F which has a hydraulic clutch.
So what goes into the decision making process when engineers decide what kind of clutch to use? Are cable clutches used to reduce weight? Increase feedback? Keep costs down? What are the up's and down's of each type?
Just curious...
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Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:47 am Posts: 2721 Location: Sydney OZ.
Been thinking about this my self. I think you lose alot of feed back when taking off from a stand still and doing slow moves ,but after that it doesn't matter. Hydraulic seems either on or off ,no middle. But at least you don't have to worry about it snapping or maintenance.
Pros and cons.
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Joined: Mon Dec 15, 2008 10:25 pm Posts: 114 Location: NE Ohio. All of the good places were full
Just making stuff up but here goes:
Hydraulic- easier to route hydraulic lines (which can curve and bend), no need to adjust, unfortunately can leak, when a piston starts leaking you don't know whether the M.C. or slave is bad, you have to bleed the system every once in a while to keep it clean, there is a master cylinder sticking up at the handlebars.
Cable- simpler, don't leak, easy to adjust
I had a Shadow (cable) and a Concours (hydraulic), I had to bleed the Concours about twice a year because it got contaminated I think due to heat from the engine The cable was better I thought, also I kept it greased. Yes it would stretch after a while. If you replaced it every 2 or 3 years when it stretched, you wouldn't have to worry about it breaking on you.
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Joined: Wed Oct 01, 2008 7:58 pm Posts: 260 Location: Cerritos, CA
Sleddog wrote:
Been thinking about this my self. I think you lose alot of feed back when taking off from a stand still and doing slow moves ,but after that it doesn't matter. Hydraulic seems either on or off ,no middle. But at least you don't have to worry about it snapping or maintenance.
Pros and cons.
your description is pretty accurate. Cable clutch = greater feedback. Hydraulic Clutch = less feedback. This is the reason why the '09 GSX-R 1000 went back to cable vs the '08 which had hydraulic.
I prefer cable myself on a sportbike, but for a sport/tourer like our bikes I like the hydraulic.
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