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I know I'm going to get a lot of opinions on this subject but I'll throw in my .02 worth. I have used this since day one of the bike. The lubing qualities are excellent. Once all of the initial lube that the factory placed on the chain has flung all over my rim, the rim has stayed clean. It goes on very thinly for penetration but dries immediately. I came from a shaft drive bike and was bumming that I had to use a chain lube again because I remember always having to use degreaser to keep the bike clean. Not with this product! I am in no way associated with the company, just passing on my experience with this chain lube. In the US I know you can buy it a Lowes. Only $4.99 a can. I hate a bike with chain lube flying all over the place. This has eliminated it!
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcyc ... n-lube.htm

That sounds good, I hate the flinging of thick sticky lube all over the wheel and chainguard, that stuff looks far cleaner. The only question mark I'd have is that it's fast evaporating and smells like WD40 according to the review. That indicates a solvent carrier which isn't recommended for bike chains as it hardens and destroys the O rings allowing the grease in the rollers to escape and dirt to get in causing wear. Thats why WD40 isn't recommended for O ring bike chains. It's a bit confusing as the label doesn't say chain lube any more, just multi purpose lube. I probably wouldn't buy it unless it specifically said it was for motorcycle chain use on the tin somewhere (does it?).

I'm using a castrol product called chain wax at the mo which is a light, sticky oil spray, it's not causing a mess at the moment although I always seem to put too much on ( I've got a weird aerosol OCD I think lol ). Just to digress a bit, if you need to get sticky residue patches off the bike wheels or panels, those 'bug and tar wipes' you can get in car shops and supermarkets are excellent.

It does specifically claim to be safe for O Ring chains. I realize I have only 2000 miles on the bike using this lube but I will say I have had to adjust it very few times. I found this product from another forum and the users rave about it.

That sounds great then, cheers Applewins! I'll try and pick some up when the stuff I've got runs out.

Thanx for the heads up.
Looks like I'll be getting some of this stuff.

As far as WD40 damaging rubber, a friend of mine had some o-rings soaking in WD40 for about 5 years. There was no change to the elasticity or strength of the o-rings.

As far as chain lube, I had done what turned out to be a comparo on the same bike with two identical chains, and found chain wax to be significantly inferior to plain old motor oil applied with a brush.

By 17k miles, the bike's first chain, lubed only with chain wax every 300-500 miles, was toast. The current chain, identical to the first one on that bike is at 45k miles, lubed only with motor oil, applied with a brush, and its still going strong.

Thats 17k to a stretched out, noisy, kinked, dead chain with chain wax, and 28k and still minimally adjusted, still going strong chain with motor oil. Oh, and motor oil is waaaaaaaaaaay less expensive than chain wax. Seems to me to be an easy choice.

All three of my chain driven bikes have required minimal adjustments, even over tens of thousands of miles.

I am also not worried about fling off. The brush applies the minimal amount. I also do it after a ride, when the chain is warm, and I know I wont be riding til at least the next day. If I feel like being anal about it, I'll wipe the chain with a rag right before the ride, but I can honestly say that I never do that, anyway. A little black spotting on my rim doesn't get my panties all tied up in a knot.

About the only advantage chain wax, and other stuff in the can have, is that they're in a can. And even that's not a complete advantage because overspray can dirty up other parts of the bike.

Oil is cheaper, with a brush is just about as easy to apply once the rear tire is off the ground, there is no getting the oil on other parts of the bike during application (if that is important to you), and I have gotten far better results with oil than with chain wax, in particular.

Oil is what keeps the insides of our engines working. It is, imho, the best thing to keep chains healthy, as well.

I agree with erick. I use 90w gear oil on my chain, and clean it with kerosene every 300 or 400 miles. I've never had a chain problem.

We will have to agree to disagree on this one. When searching the web forums for Teflon Chain lube you run across countless testimonials on this product on how well THIS ONE works. I cannot speak for other wax based lubes. I guess the 'proof is in the pudding' though an I'll let you know what my chain is like at 17,000 miles. In the meantime though I won't be cleaning my back rim, chainguard, and surrounding areas 85 times (every 200 miles). To each their own and keep the shiny side up.

I'm will let the dealer install a Pro-Oiler (www.pro-oiler.com) on my 650F when the time comes. I dont want the hustle of cleaning/lubing the chain when I'm on a road trip 1000 miles from home in the mountains when there is rain/dust etc.

For the 200,- its cheap compared to the convience you get from it. Of course I will inspect the chain once in a while, but on most bikes with the pro-oiler installed you dont even have to adjust the chain for like 6-8000miles.

You have to be careful with those automatic chain oilers. It takes a bit of finagling to get them to work without creating an oil slick.

FWIW, I use my weekly chain oiling session as a time to check over the whole bike. Sort of a bonding experience.

Yes, I will definitely want to know how long your chain lasts with _any_ spray-on lube, no matter how good it is claimed to be. I'm over 28k with oil, and still going strong.

I just had to reply one more time. You said WAY more expensive. The can of Dupont chain lube is 5 bucks and it's lasted me all season. Pretty cheap. Cheaper then probably your oil when you consider the time used to clean your motorcycle, kerosene, dirty rags, storage and disposal of rags, etc.

Also, what 'wax chain lube' did you test? If it wasn't the Dupont brand then you really can't disclaim the quality of the product. Ok, I'm not doubting you that your method works really well for long lasting chains, but I've been riding for many years and the convenience of this product out-weighs the hassle with the extra effort needed for cleaning, time, etc and the total life of a chain.

Once again, we will agree to disagree. I'll report in at 10,000 miles. I'm not afraid to admit I'm wrong on this product, but so far IT'S BEEN GREAT!

You have to be careful with those automatic chain oilers. It takes a bit of finagling to get them to work without creating an oil slick.

Hey erickvonzipper, I agree with you on this one.

Thats why I'm gonna do it with a guy our national Bike Forum. He helped 15 people installing the pro oiler on their bikes so I think I'm good to go. Of course I'm gonna carefully test it.

Sorry Apple, I should have been more specific about the brand. It is 'Chain Wax,' the brand, not a generic. I don't know the manufacturer because I used this stuff during the first year I had the bike, like 12 years ago. =oO

I wasn't implying that all spray lubes are the same. I am truly interested in how long _your_ brand of spray-on works.

As far as my methodology for using oil, all I do is wipe it on with a brush. It takes about as long as the spray can. No rags, no soaking, no disposal problems.

Back when I used 'Chain Wax,' a tall spray can of it was about 8 bucks, and it didn't last me all season. Then again, a season for me is 10 months long, and that's in the metro NYC area (one of my mottos is, 'If there's no snow, I go). A quart of motor oil, or better yet, a 5 quart jug of Super Tech at Walmart, is less than $10. That'll last me, for chain lube purposes, for the rest of my life.

I'm not arguing, I'm just clarifying. For about 25 years of riding my own bikes, and trying all sorts of stuff, I've come back to motor oil for all the reasons I've listed previously.

Again, please let us know your results as they happen. There's nothing better than first-hand evidence.