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Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:55 am Posts: 13 Location: Bremerton, WA
You see all over the place different techniques. Being a fairly new rider of course i have some decent chicken strips on my tires.
So the question is this, who hangs off and who just leans with their bike? As well as peoples thoughts and comments on the pro's and cons of each.
Joined: Thu Feb 26, 2009 3:06 am Posts: 97 Location: Massachusetts
Pro's hang off the bike to keep the bike itself more upright.
its all about feeling confident in a lean!
dont be ashamed of chicken strips, mine are a decent size as well, and i still corner like a bat out of hell.
my suggestion is to find a rotary.
get on the inside lane and just keep increasing your lean and speed little by little, itll give you confidence in your leaning and youll learn the feel of how far you can take it
also dont be afraid, the back tire wont slide out until a few degrees after grinding your pegs, so if you do scrape one just lean your body off the bike INTO the turn to get your bike to stand back up without slowing down!
Joined: Sat Oct 25, 2008 8:25 pm Posts: 268 Location: West Palm Beach
Thats sounds like a stellar technique. I also didn't know that the pegs act as a warning to not push your luck much further. Low siding is one of my biggest fears.
Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2009 2:55 am Posts: 13 Location: Bremerton, WA
it's definately a confidence issue and one i'm working on. I've been riding w/ my buddy who's got an old bmw cop bike and he toasts me in the corners. But then again he's also got me on the experience side of things.
The strips dont bother me as much as i'm wondering about the hanging off part. I'm going to the bookstore to pick up total control, as well as signing up for a sportbike class here locally (required by my employer). Just tryin to get ahead of the power curve.
Joined: Tue May 27, 2008 11:41 pm Posts: 113 Location: Wichita, Kansas USA
I use the "push" style. When cornering left, "push" the left handle bar. When right, "push" right. If you havent ever tryed it, it can feel weird at first.
Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:02 am Posts: 23 Location: North Carolina, USA
08cruiser wrote:
I use the "push" style. When cornering left, "push" the left handle bar. When right, "push" right. If you havent ever tryed it, it can feel weird at first.
This is how we were taught in the MSF rider course. We have a lot of twisty roads here in the mountains of NC and this technique works well.
I use the "push" style. When cornering left, "push" the left handle bar. When right, "push" right. If you havent ever tryed it, it can feel weird at first.
This is how we were taught in the MSF rider course. We have a lot of twisty roads here in the mountains of NC and this technique works well.
I use the "push" style. When cornering left, "push" the left handle bar. When right, "push" right. If you havent ever tryed it, it can feel weird at first.
This is how we were taught in the MSF rider course. We have a lot of twisty roads here in the mountains of NC and this technique works well.
does it apply also if you are cornering on an elevated road (i.e. on ramps)? sorry i did not took msf
I use the "push" style. When cornering left, "push" the left handle bar. When right, "push" right. If you havent ever tryed it, it can feel weird at first.
This is how we were taught in the MSF rider course. We have a lot of twisty roads here in the mountains of NC and this technique works well.
when do you apply counter steering according to msf?
Joined: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:43 am Posts: 123 Location: New Bern, NC USA
You really want to feel planted and confident in the turns? Use the kiss the mirror technique. What's that you ask? Simple, as you go around a curve, just lean towards the inside mirror like you are going to kiss it. Don't get so close to it that you do kiss it, just lean towards it. This does a few things. First, it gets you in the habit of looking where you want to go provided of course you aren't staring right at the mirror, second it helps you learn to transfer your weight towards the inside of the bike correctly, using your upper body and not just your butt. I hate following dudes who are crossed up, you know, they throw their asses into the curve, but their head is outside the centerline of the bike. Drives me nuts.
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The only difference for normal road riding for every day is....keep your "legs tight to the tank" MOVE your upper body ...same as in the video.
REALLY OVER DO IT ,get that upper body over the side of the bike ,slide your arse over alittle ,but keep the knees IN ,and do what is called kissing the mirror{as bugeyed said } ,thats where your head should be between the screen and the mirror.
I done a advanced course ,last month and "some" of what I payed $400 for ,is in the videos.
Best tip is do a cousre ,you might want a $500 pipe ..sounds good .
But you will be slow ,pay a few hundred and learn to ride ,you will LOOK good and have way way way more fun.
I repeat over and over in my head now after the course.
Slow ..look..lean..throttle on..
When coming to a corner.
Pick my line .,start wide, ...finish tight. ..So I pick my line and pick a gear ,don't be in a high gear you want some drive still in the motor ,while your not throtting on.
SLOW down ..
LOOK ..threw the corner.{look for the vanashing point ,its where both lines of your line meet ,Big tip helped me alot}
LEAN ...lean upper body over.
THROTTLE ...on smoooth.
Talk to your self ,out load ...you know what to do ,just tell your self.
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Joined: Wed Aug 27, 2008 4:39 pm Posts: 614 Location: Wilmington Delaware- USA
chicken strips are the part of the tire on the edge or close to the edge of the contact patch... with enough lean these "chicken strips go away".
me and a couple of buddies have actually tried different techniques, watching pro gp races, and asking our other buddy who does track day. the very common way to lean when hauling arse is to put a half butt cheek off the seat, keep your foot the same but put your knee out farther. this method helps with the leaning alot. lol good tires help too.
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