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Joined: Fri Feb 13, 2009 1:21 am Posts: 243 Location: N GA USA
Now that I've owned this bike for a month, I've gotten fairly familiar with it, and I love the thing! I bought the 650F thinking "commuter bike", and indeed, is is great for that. But I find that I hop on the F automatically, leaving my tricked out SV1000S to "rest" for a bit. What a fun motorcycle! So far, my mods include a Ti Scorpion, center stand, and some custom bar end weights. I'm thinking of going for a one-tooth-larger CS sprocket next. Does anyone here have the Corbin seat on their 650F?
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:37 am Posts: 63 Location: England
I'm sorry Oxbow, I really don't agree with that attitude. Personally I love doing my own work on my bike, and I try to do everything myself. But I have absolutely no experience working on motorbikes, not much time to practice or learn and no friends to teach me or to answer questions. Sometimes I look at a job and say "No, I'm not going to attempt that, I'll have to bring in the professionals" - as I did with the pipe (which they installed without labour costs, btw).
I don't see why you have to have such utter contempt for people like me or why your particular skill with the mechanics of the bike warrants such an attitude. It's something I've noticed a lot on this forum, and it always seems rather unnecessary and rather unhelpful to new riders just trying to enjoy their bike like everyone else.
Just my 2 cents.
_________________ 2008 Suzuki GSX 650 F - Black / Silver
MODS: Yoshimura R-77 Carbon Fibre Exhaust - Ermax Undertail - Ermax Hugger - Powerbronze Seat Cowl - Powerbronze Dark Tinted Windshield - Motrax Carbon Fibre Tank Pad - Wing Mirror Extenders - Flush Mount MoTrax LED D Light Indicators - Red Pazzo Shorty Racing Levers
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:50 am Posts: 745 Location: Carencro, La USA
AED wrote:
I'm sorry Oxbow, I really don't agree with that attitude.
Sometimes I look at a job and say "No, I'm not going to attempt that, I'll have to bring in the professionals" - as I did with the pipe (which they installed without labour costs, btw).
Well, I don't agree with the attitude of owning a piece of machinery and not using it as an opportunity to learn something.
The reason the shop charged you no labor to install the pipe is because it's so easy a child could do it, literally. Either that, or they were so busy laughing at your incompetence that they forgot to charge you.
Oh, I am sure that opinions will vary on this subject, but this one is mine.
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:37 am Posts: 63 Location: England
oxbow wrote:
The reason the shop charged you no labor to install the pipe is because it's so easy a child could do it, literally.
Literally? As in, a 4 year old could install one? I would like to see that!
Or are you using an exaggerated figure of speech in order to try to get a point across? Because that seems like what you are doing, and yet you've gone and used the word "literally", which means, in this sense, actually, and without exaggeration. I think you've confused yourself here.
oxbow wrote:
Either that, or they were so busy laughing at your incompetence that they forgot to charge you.
Actually, no, not everyone is as arrogant and condescending as you seem to be.
oxbow wrote:
Oh, I am sure that opinions will vary on this subject, but this one is mine.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion... and if you feel the need to feed your ego at our expense, be my guest. I'm sure you are a brilliant mechanic. Congratulations. You're awesome.
_________________ 2008 Suzuki GSX 650 F - Black / Silver
MODS: Yoshimura R-77 Carbon Fibre Exhaust - Ermax Undertail - Ermax Hugger - Powerbronze Seat Cowl - Powerbronze Dark Tinted Windshield - Motrax Carbon Fibre Tank Pad - Wing Mirror Extenders - Flush Mount MoTrax LED D Light Indicators - Red Pazzo Shorty Racing Levers
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:50 am Posts: 745 Location: Carencro, La USA
AED wrote:
Literally? As in, a 4 year old could install one? I would like to see that!
Or are you using an exaggerated figure of speech in order to try to get a point across? Because that seems like what you are doing, and yet you've gone and used the word "literally", which means, in this sense, actually, and without exaggeration. I think you've confused yourself here.
Yes, I am confident that a child could actually LITERALLY do it. It's that easy. You'd be surprised what you will be able to do with just the slightest bit of initiative. Take a little pride in your machine and be a 'rider', not just an 'owner'. The whole experience becomes so much better that way. Man melds with machine, machine melds with man. It's really a beautiful thing.
Do you let someone else service your wife too? Just saying.
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:37 am Posts: 63 Location: England
oxbow wrote:
Yes, I am confident that a child could actually LITERALLY do it. It's that easy.
Great! I look forward to you posting some footage on YouTube to prove your point.
oxbow wrote:
You'd be surprised what you will be able to do with just the slightest bit of initiative. Take a little pride in your machine and be a 'rider', not just an 'owner'.
And be just like you? Awesome.
oxbow wrote:
The whole experience becomes so much better that way. Man melds with machine, machine melds with man. It's really a beautiful thing.
So basically, what you're saying is, if I understand you, you got a little *ahem* close to that exhaust *ahem* during the install?
oxbow wrote:
Do you let someone else service your wife too? Just saying.
Once again, you seem to be confusing your wife and your bike... oh hang on...
_________________ 2008 Suzuki GSX 650 F - Black / Silver
MODS: Yoshimura R-77 Carbon Fibre Exhaust - Ermax Undertail - Ermax Hugger - Powerbronze Seat Cowl - Powerbronze Dark Tinted Windshield - Motrax Carbon Fibre Tank Pad - Wing Mirror Extenders - Flush Mount MoTrax LED D Light Indicators - Red Pazzo Shorty Racing Levers
Joined: Wed Apr 22, 2009 7:35 am Posts: 235 Location: Evergreen State F-TROOPER
oxbow wrote:
Do you let someone else service your wife too? Just saying.
Sorry but that was just down right funny. You both make valid points. But in this case..... a slip on should warrant a little D.I.Y effort. Just think about it.... there is going to come a time when your out on your machine and something is gonna go wrong. Might be helpful to be a little familiar with your bike.
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:50 am Posts: 745 Location: Carencro, La USA
Onespeed wrote:
Sorry but that was just down right funny. You both make valid points. But in this case..... a slip on should warrant a little D.I.Y effort. Just think about it.... there is going to come a time when your out on your machine and something is gonna go wrong. Might be helpful to be a little familiar with your bike.
Exactly. And the English wonder why they lost the war.
Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2008 9:37 am Posts: 63 Location: England
oxbow wrote:
Exactly. And the English wonder why they lost the war.
Sorry mate but you've totally twisted my original argument.
I totally agree that everyone should try to know how their bikes work, I personally love working on my bike, I'm learning as I go, hoorah for me.
The point of my post is that people like you should stop acting cock-of-the-world and being disparaging to other riders just because they seek a little bit of help now and then.
But obviously you are far too arrogant to change your ways now.
And the Americans wonder why everybody hates them.
_________________ 2008 Suzuki GSX 650 F - Black / Silver
MODS: Yoshimura R-77 Carbon Fibre Exhaust - Ermax Undertail - Ermax Hugger - Powerbronze Seat Cowl - Powerbronze Dark Tinted Windshield - Motrax Carbon Fibre Tank Pad - Wing Mirror Extenders - Flush Mount MoTrax LED D Light Indicators - Red Pazzo Shorty Racing Levers
Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 2:50 am Posts: 745 Location: Carencro, La USA
AED wrote:
Sorry mate but you've totally twisted my original argument.
I totally agree that everyone should try to know how their bikes work, I personally love working on my bike, I'm learning as I go, hoorah for me.
The point of my post is that people like you should stop acting cock-of-the-world and being disparaging to other riders just because they seek a little bit of help now and then.
But obviously you are far too arrogant to change your ways now.
And the Americans wonder why everybody hates them.
I did not realize that we were arguing. And if you think I am arrogant for stating a simple fact, well you may be the one who has gotten it a bit twisted.
You may disagree with the fact that I stated, but it is still a fact. Now, I may be a bit biased in my assumption that everyone is capable of changing an exhaust pipe themselves, but that is probably my own fault. I tend to believe that people who are smart enough to ride a motorcycle should also be smart enough to undo a couple of bolts, but that was before I spoke to you.
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