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 Post subject: Intergated LED Tail Light
PostPosted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 4:18 am 
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This would look pretty hot. Does anyone know if they are actually legal (in OZ)

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Suzuki-GSF1250-B ... dZViewItem

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i have them on my bike. i dont see how they would be illegal.... they still have turn signals.....


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i have them on my bike. i dont see how they would be illegal.... they still have turn signals.....


some places require the blinkers to be a minimum distance apart.


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It's 9" apart from center for us here Cali.


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It's 9" apart from center for us here Cali.

That's a bunch of crap, this state sucks.


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Thank goodness my state doesn't specify that kind of distance apart requirement (and I have the state regs about them in hand).

Anyone know if the US DOT does? I'm coming up empty trying to find such a Federal regulation.


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 Post subject: integrated led tail light
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UNfortuneatley these things are illegal in Victoria (Oz), the Vic roads regs state that indicators must be 30cm apart. mind you l have seen a couple of bikes around with these integrated tail lights installed - standard or mod l dont know. But, l had to look pretty hard to find that iece of legislation so l dont know if your average Plod would know either.


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TorqueDude wrote:
Thank goodness my state doesn't specify that kind of distance apart requirement (and I have the state regs about them in hand).

Anyone know if the US DOT does? I'm coming up empty trying to find such a Federal regulation.


From what I understand it doesn't have to be listed per state since it's supposedly a Federal regulation. Certain areas where I live enforce it.

You can start here http://www.ocmoto.com/index.php?topic=5859.0 it's the local sport biker forum in my area. I'm currently at work so I haven't had time to look for it.


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Very cool, thanks IsaaX. His links are stale, but he mentions FMVSS No. 108, and that does indeed appear to be the real McCoy applicable Federal thing. I'm still digging to find the actual authoritative regulation text somewhere. So far I'm only finding lots of "interpretations" and summaries and related government court records. Digging at http://www.regulations.gov looks like it might be productive, but it's a mess trying to sort out the court documents I don't care about, and for all I know it might not really even be there anyway.

Interestingly, it does seem, from what I've read so far while searching, that states can optionally mandate FMVSS 108 or not. If they do, it's the law. If they don't, then only state laws apply, even if contradictory. Apparently. Can't be sure, of course, until I see the actual regs/laws.

Very frustrating that it's not easier to get clear authoritative documented answers on this kind of question. I guess that's why attorneys get the big bucks, they wade through this kind of crap all day long.


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If you guys find the OFFICIAL word, let us know because I'm interested.

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I guess the next question is how much is the fine. If it's not too much it might be worth the risk.

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Wax wrote:
I guess the next question is how much is the fine. If it's not too much it might be worth the risk.


It's just a "fix it" ticket for us. Basically make the adjustments to make it legal then take it in for inspection. Inspection fee is like $15 I think.


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Where are you at please dhula, I'm curious? Please see the sticky about posting your location, lol :)

I do find it somewhat fascinating how laws and enforcement guidelines vary. And possibly useful if I'm ever found somewhere unfamiliar!


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