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Joined: Mon Jun 16, 2008 3:22 am Posts: 210 Location: Houston, Texas
Arenalife wrote:
It just seems a moot point to be concerned about as only a tiny percentage of riders keep their bike until the point where engine wear starts to become a factor (usually 40,000 - 50,000 miles for a Japanese mid range bike). If you are going to keep a new bike that long it makes sense to use the best oils but if it's just going to be a couple of years then any reasonable oil changed regularly is going to do fine (just my opinion, I may be an idiot ).
Arena -- am I just an odd-ball? I've had the bike ~1 month, I just hit 1200 miles, 40K is going to go by fast at this rate.
Since I've not owned a bike in a several years how many miles is more "normal"?
Maybe I'm still just in nirvana from the bike I do seem to be finding the ODDEST reasons to go to the store, or around the block, or check on how dark it is on the other side of town...
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2008 11:22 pm Posts: 298 Location: Mesa, Arizona USA
Bike has almost 2000 miles on it and time for the next oil change - I know it's not due till 4000 miles but I have ridden this bike hard and in very hot weather. Got some Suzuki 15W50 ($6.99 QT) Synthetic racing oil and a K&N oil filter (PN: KN138).
Joined: Sun Dec 30, 2007 8:09 pm Posts: 183 Location: Wales, UK
I think the mobil is more expensive as it's one of the few oils left in the world that still contains a high level of phosphorous which cushions the gears in the gearbox.
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Joined: Wed May 28, 2008 12:05 pm Posts: 25 Location: Monterey, California
I am up for my next oil change, so anything else I should check on the bike while doing the serivce? I mean how often does the chain get lubed and with what?
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Is there a video out there of changing the oil on the bike? I've never owned a bike until this one and I'd like to be able to change the oil myself to save me some money by not taking it back to the dealership, but I am clueless as to how.
And about the chain lube, I was told by the dealer that after you've been on it for a while (the dealer put some crazy kind of grease on there) like a month to start lubing it up either once a week if you ride very often or once a month if you don't ride a lot. You can buy a can of chain lube at wal-mart for about 5 bucks and just spray it on the bottom part of the chain, roll the bike forward, repeat. Some vets on here might have better advice for that, but that is what the dealer told me and he definitely knows bikes.
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:45 pm Posts: 952 Location: The Netherlands
Often/dont often is a bit of a wide statement.
It depends in what kind of conditions you ride the bike. Is it raining, is there alot of dust/sand on the roads you drive. Normally you lube the chain every 600 miles if you dont run into rain/dust/sand. Otherwise it could be up to 150-200 miles if you drive in the rain alot.
Joined: Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:03 am Posts: 230 Location: Essex, UK
i try and do the basic checks once a week, check oil, tyre pressures, tread level, no punctures, lights aand everything secure and then give it a wash and maybe polish.
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:39 am Posts: 368 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
OK. I'm going to try to change the oil without taking the right cover off per floshee. Just need to buy the swivel socket. Good tip for sure!
Concerning chain lube. I mentioned it here at :
http://www.gsx650f.biz/chain-lube-t66.html I am sold on this lube. The chain stays absolutely clean with NO fling. I do not drive on dirt roads or dusty condition, just on the street as probably most of us do. It's now been 800 miles since I have had to adjust the chain.
Joined: Thu Jun 12, 2008 7:45 pm Posts: 952 Location: The Netherlands
Doens't anyone here consider using a automated lubrication system like the Scottoiler or Pro-Oiler.
Not that I'm lazy but more that I want to do alot of touring next year and dont want to stop to often just to lube the chain when I get thru a rainy place. And getting a centre stand isn't really wanted.
Joined: Fri Apr 11, 2008 12:39 am Posts: 368 Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Well, if you don't want a center stand then I guess the auto oiler would be OK for you. I have never used one but from what I have read there is much to be desired on those oilers. To each their own but a bike without a center stand has to many disadvantages for me. I was thrilled to get a bike that would accept a center stand.
I am a new rider and have a black GSX650F for two months.
I did forget to change the oil on 600 miles. Now I have 1400 miles on it (I know i am an idiot), did i cost any problems to the motorcycle? I hope not but would like to know your experience riders opinion.
Joined: Wed Jul 02, 2008 7:51 am Posts: 1028 Location: Canberra, Australia
They say the first service is the most important one. The reason for that is that when you are breaking in the engine (the first 600 miles), very small parts of metal break off the internal engine components as they bed into each other. The oil picks up these small pieces of metal and they are circulated throughout the engine.
I don't really know how much damage you may have caused but I suspect we all baby our bikes a bit more than they really need to be. If you have caused problems it is probably the kind of thing that you won't notice till you have a heck of a lot of mileage on it (probably long after you have traded it in on another bike, which is one of the reasons I am no longer going to be buying used bikes).
Just be sure to change the oil as soon as possible, and to continue to replace it AT LEAST as often as specified in the manual. Also, you should still be riding the bike gently until the first oil change has been performed.
They say the first service is the most important one. The reason for that is that when you are breaking in the engine (the first 600 miles), very small parts of metal break off the internal engine components as they bed into each other. The oil picks up these small pieces of metal and they are circulated throughout the engine. I don't really know how much damage you may have caused but I suspect we all baby our bikes a bit more than they really need to be. If you have caused problems it is probably the kind of thing that you won't notice till you have a heck of a lot of mileage on it (probably long after you have traded it in on another bike, which is one of the reasons I am no longer going to be buying used bikes). Just be sure to change the oil as soon as possible, and to continue to replace it AT LEAST as often as specified in the manual. Also, you should still be riding the bike gently until the first oil change has been performed.
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will do it ASAP. I am being gentle on the bike. I am doing max 6500 RPM. No more
Joined: Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:47 am Posts: 2724 Location: Sydney OZ.
Ankiseth wrote:
Is there a video out there of changing the oil on the bike? I've never owned a bike until this one and I'd like to be able to change the oil myself to save me some money by not taking it back to the dealership, but I am clueless as to how.
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Check out these videos ,shows you oil change and how to remove or tighten chain also .
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I do seem to be finding the ODDEST reasons to go to the store, or around the block, or check on how dark it is on the other side of town...
