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 Post subject: Riding skills THIS WEEKS PRACTICE.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:55 am 
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And join in on this thread and we can talk about what you have practiced this week and how your going.

I've been practing emergency stops this week ,about 10 minutes a day at the end of my ride.
My problems are ...being tight on the bars with my bodey weight shifting to the front ...I got to grip more with my knees and get smoother with the brakes ,I tend to go alittle hard at first ..BAD in the wet..
So be praticing keeping locked on the tank with my knees and smooth on the brake.

What are you practing ??
If your not doing it ...why ??
Now go and practice some thing and join in this thread.

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 Post subject: Re: Riding skills THIS WEEKS PRACTICE.
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 11:43 am 
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I've done all the practising while getting my license. 20 hours of brake/balance and riding tests.

On the road, once in a while when there is no one behind me I take the opportunity to practice an emergency brake. Also noticed that my front fork is bottoming out while braking heavily. Gonna increase the preload and see if I get some better braking distance.

When riding on the road and there are alot of side raods, I always keep my fingers and right foot on the brakes to reduce responce time if a cager does something stupid. In all the 20k km I've ridden I only needed to perform a emergency brake once and was without fault.


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 Post subject: Re: Riding skills THIS WEEKS PRACTICE.
PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 6:19 am 
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Kadett wrote:
I've done all the practising while getting my license. 20 hours of brake/balance and riding tests.

On the road, once in a while when there is no one behind me I take the opportunity to practice an emergency brake. Also noticed that my front fork is bottoming out while braking heavily. Gonna increase the preload and see if I get some better braking distance.
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Are you forks bottoming out from your weight shifting onto the bars ?
Which also stops you from having controll of the bike because you have changed your best arm-handle bar angle to counter steer away from the car-truck your about to hit at the last second... once you got have wash off some speed.
Also you {or ME thats why i'm spend more time on this} have griped the bars to tight and this affects your throttle control and you have "chopped" the throttle and not rolling off the throttle smoothly.
There is alot more then just grabing the brakes smoothly.

We spend a few hours on this in an Advanced trainingcourse I took {not compulsory} at a race track ,hit about 80kph and stop at quick as you can and down shifiting before you come to a full stop ,to make sure your in the corect gear to get out of the way from the car about to but you from behind.

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 Post subject: Re: Riding skills THIS WEEKS PRACTICE.
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Sleddog wrote:
Kadett wrote:
I've done all the practising while getting my license. 20 hours of brake/balance and riding tests.

On the road, once in a while when there is no one behind me I take the opportunity to practice an emergency brake. Also noticed that my front fork is bottoming out while braking heavily. Gonna increase the preload and see if I get some better braking distance.
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Are you forks bottoming out from your weight shifting onto the bars ?
Which also stops you from having controll of the bike because you have changed your best arm-handle bar angle to counter steer away from the car-truck your about to hit at the last second... once you got have wash off some speed.
Also you {or ME thats why i'm spend more time on this} have griped the bars to tight and this affects your throttle control and you have "chopped" the throttle and not rolling off the throttle smoothly.
There is alot more then just grabing the brakes smoothly.

We spend a few hours on this in an Advanced trainingcourse I took {not compulsory} at a race track ,hit about 80kph and stop at quick as you can and down shifiting before you come to a full stop ,to make sure your in the corect gear to get out of the way from the car about to but you from behind.


This is compulsory for our normale riding license :) Also evation test, ride 50kph, slow down as quick as you can and down shift and get out of the way for a car (in this case Pylon :) ) that pulls on the road in front of you. So the distance between slowing down and the car/pylon is about 12 meters I believe.


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 Post subject: Re: Riding skills THIS WEEKS PRACTICE.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 3:01 am 
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1. i do slow tight circles and tight figure eights
2. hard stops both brakes then rear only then front only
3. on road practace too , have 20 mph hairpin exit getting good now at setting it up and good lean on the gas out of it and if no traffic behind braking too.
4. more use of arm and hand signals
5. Bad weather riding

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f104s wrote:
1. i do slow tight circles and tight figure eights
2. ...then rear only then front only
4. more use of arm and hand signals

Why on earth would you bother practising that stuff?
I can't think of a single real-world situation where any of these skills might help.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 4:14 am 
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Lets see number one parking at the BART station the "Motorcycle" parking area, the spaces are made for scooters, so tight turning is needed.

Number two Advanced riders do practice separate braking, and if one system goes out your ready.

Number three Today coming home late heading due east large ball of Fire in the west, so to help those cagers i help them and use hand and arm signals, keeps the cage from doing damage to my 650.

So for you nitekreeper it may not make any sense to you, to me i stay alive and enjoy my ride.
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 Post subject: Re: Riding skills THIS WEEKS PRACTICE.
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f104s wrote:
Lets see number one parking at the BART station the "Motorcycle" parking area, the spaces are made for scooters, so tight turning is needed.

So? Parking every day is all the practise you need. It's a situation that happens "every day", at the same time, and at your pace, right? And if you mess it up, you start over - it's not like parking up is a situation that just "springs itself on you", and you only get one chance for your life...

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Number two Advanced riders do practice separate braking, and if one system goes out your ready.

Um, just who are some of these "advanced riders", and why don't they perform routine maintenance so that the chance of brake failure is negligible? How often have you heard of this happening?

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Number three Today coming home late heading due east large ball of Fire in the west, so to help those cagers i help them and use hand and arm signals, keeps the cage from doing damage to my 650.

I prefer not being in a position where that's even possible, let alone likely.

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So for you nitekreeper it may not make any sense to you, to me i stay alive and enjoy my ride.
Cheers

And that's the main thing, I guess - you're having fun.
Still haven't convinced me it's time that couldn't be better spent practising more worthwhile skills, but as long as you're having fun...

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 Post subject: Re: Riding skills THIS WEEKS PRACTICE.
PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 2:23 pm 
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I do tight turns all the time and should practice it more.
Rear brake and friction on the clutch as taught in rider training.
This bike is a beast to handle at slow speed.

This weeks practice is ,clutch less up and down shifting.
{Please no debate if it good for you bike or not ,its your bike do what you like}
Its just so smooth when done right and can help you get home with no clutch lever if you droped it..LOL.

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Sleddog wrote:
I do tight turns all the time and should practice it more.
Rear brake and friction on the clutch as taught in rider training.
This bike is a beast to handle at slow speed.

This weeks practice is ,clutch less up and down shifting.
{Please no debate if it good for you bike or not ,its your bike do what you like}
Its just so smooth when done right and can help you get home with no clutch lever if you droped it..LOL.


This and only this!!

I can do figure 8's/tight turns etc forever on the learners bike I rode, a Honda CB500 weighing 180kg. First thing I notice when riding on the 650F was how top heavy it was. Never ever succeeded in doing a turn like on the Honda anymore :lol:


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