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 Post subject: Re: trouble shifting
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 12:46 am 
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Hi,

I think you will find its the clutch spindle (push rod) accessed behind the drive sprocket cover. The same cover that holds the speed sensor. I think its a simple matter of clutch actuation engaging/disengaging each gear ie; you need to squeeze the clutch lever in each time (only if you use the clutch) for upshifting and downshifting otherwise if you try and just HOLD the clutch in even whilst in motion you will experience clunky changes and or no change UNTIL you actuate the clutch with even a very small squeeze / release. The shift sensor wont pick up the gear either and - this will be reflected in your gear position indicator on your clustor and will just show the same gear or go blank as you try and force a change when your still holding the clutch in moving more than one gear at a time instead of depressing and releasing the clutch for each gear movement.. As stated in a previous thread just load your gear change lever by placing upward or downward pressure using your boot and at the same time give the clutch lever a flick ( I use two fingers) and in 99% of changes you will get a smooth transition into the next gear up or down.

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 Post subject: Re: trouble shifting
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 2:09 am 
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Bikehigh wrote:
While moving. Why would some one shift down while stopped?

Because some people don't know or understand how a motorcycle gearbox works and they think it can be done like cars can be.
jeveretts wrote:
Hey Capfile, it's your Dad... let me know if you get this straight. It almost sounds like you were trying to shift it down after you stopped? that doesn't work. But if you find yourself in a situation where you had to stop in a high gear, let the clutch out a little between each gear shift till you feel the bike surge forward, this should help it shift down to the next gear. Think of it like a bicycle, shifting works best when all the bits are turning :)
Motorcycle transmissions work a lot different than a car, I even occasionally get a false neutral here and there on all my bikes. Anytime you make multiple shifts on one clutch pull.. things 'can' get get a little jammed up, 1 clutch pull per gear keeps things nice and smooth.

Dad knows best as always :-)
You can change down gears on a bike without releasing the clutch so long as the bike is rolling forwards and you give it a split second to do it's thing.


Now to get mum on a bike and on this forum and it really will be family motoring :-)


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 Post subject: Re: trouble shifting
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 9:35 pm 
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Yeah, I cleaned and lubed the clutch rod when I changed the front sprocket. Rode 200 miles yesterday, and had the problem happen. Rode 100 miles this morning and had the problem happen. Rode 75 this afternoon with my girl on the back, and ..... no problem! If this means that I have to take my girl with me every time I ride, I'm not liking it!


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 Post subject: Re: trouble shifting
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 2:50 pm 
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Couple of Q's in no particular order.
*are you loosing any clutch fluid. Take the res top off to be sure as the sight glass can take a while to register a drop.
*are you sure your shifting technique is not the cause, especially when a little tired/fatigued or thinking about something else for a moment. be sure to fully down shift and then take your foot off the lever completely before downshifting again


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 Post subject: Re: trouble shifting
PostPosted: Mon Feb 28, 2011 3:53 pm 
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dhula wrote:
be sure to fully down shift and then take your foot off the lever completely before downshifting again


I've been conciously making an effort to do just that, as it has occurred to me this may be the cause. I think I may adjust the shift lever down a touch and see what happens.


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 Post subject: Re: trouble shifting
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:52 am 
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While you have the plastic cover off, also check to make sure the pinch bolt at the shift arm is tight. (#36 here) and there is no movement between the arm and the shaft


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 Post subject: Re: trouble shifting
PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2011 7:53 am 
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yeah. My bike seems to downshift just fine, til it gets under idle speed in 6-th, (17mph indicated) and then the gearbox turns to mush. I first thought I had damaged the gears, or the shifter, but it's not a problem I've had to deal with much. I just remember to get it to second at around 20 mph with a dab of throttle for a rev match, and I've no problems, if ever.


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 Post subject: Re: trouble shifting
PostPosted: Thu May 05, 2011 12:58 pm 
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Thanks for this discussion and the help guys, I've been having the same issue.


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